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Here is an easier picture quiz from Pat Robotham.  No clues, even I know what it is! Answers by email to: edgrew@virginmedia.com

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Picture quiz question for Chat 18 was:-  What is the link to these two pictures?  The answer was Tesla.  Nikola Tesla was an engineer and scientist known for designing the alternating-current (AC) electric system, which is the predominant electrical system used across the world today. He also created the "Tesla coil," which is still used in radio technology.  He worked with Thomas Edison for a time.  You can read a short biography here.

Correct answers from:- Don Eades, Mick, Dughan 

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I think this quiz was quite difficult, especially as the clues were somewhat cryptic.  The question was:- "What is this piston from?"
The clues were:-  It is not from a bike engine, it is from a car.  The next clue was:-  Blue oval/water crossing the road put some money into early development but that is not the answer.

The answer is The piston is from the V8 Cosworth  DFV (Double Four Valve) engine.  In the late 60's Ford were initially involved, putting in the money for Keith Duckworth to design the engine that was produced by Cosworth.  1970s, it was used by nearly all F1 teams.

Correct answer from:- Don Eades,

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Pat Robotham's first motorised transport and his Motorcycling Memories.

I was born in 1951 in Sway in the New Forest in Hampshire, and lived there until I was 18 leaving home for university. I was sent away to school in the depths of rural Somerset, this was because my father worked as a commercial pilot for BOAC and frequently had to live and work abroad and he took my mother with him.

The New Forest, is an area of natural heath land, and forest/woodland plantations on poor gravel based soils basically in a rough square between Bournemouth and Southampton on the coast up to Salisbury plain. And covers an area of about 350 square miles. It dates back to 1066 when William the Conqueror decided he wanted a “new” place to hunt deer, so he designated it a New Forest, with all the strange local laws and rules that still persist today

I believe we ended up there in the first place because all the pilots of what was the new airline BOAC, once they had returned from the war, were told that the new national airport would be at Herne , an old military airfield. However, once they had all moved there the plans changed and they developed Heathrow but all the pilots stayed in the Forest.

At that time, it was a number of fairly distant isolated villages, and communities mostly of “locals” with a smattering of “incomers” like us trying to fit in.  There were also a few small towns and the bigger towns mentioned previously although they are not strictly in the forest.  I was once asked were I came from and as I could not be bothered to explain said simply, Bournemouth, to which came the reply, “ people don’t come from Bournemouth they just go there to die.”  It had always had a retirement atmosphere even then.

The whole area was serviced by an adequate set of railway branch lines until the arrival of Beeching who shut the lot and isolated the communities’ even further at a single stroke.  The bus service was wholly inadequate if you lived out in the sticks as I did from about 1963, in a place miles from anywhere called Bisterne Close, near the village of Burley two miles up a seriously challenging dirt and gravel track.

Up until the age of sixteen I had kept in touch with my limited social life by bicycle. The main problem with this was that to see anyone required at least a twenty mile round trip frequently longer, and one feature of the Forest is because it is quite close to the sea it is subject to high winds particularly on the most open roads, which was most of the ones I cycled.

When I got to sixteen, and because I was staying on at school to do A levels, the expectation was that I would get a job over the summer holidays.  Fine by me as it would give me some financial independence, so long as I could find something.  I got a job three miles from home in a country house hotel called The Burley Manor, as a waiter.  I don’t remember the wages but it was long hours for not much money, but I did learn how to do silver service, a skill I have never used since.  I think I did this job for about seven weeks and because there was nothing to spend the money on and no time to spend it, it built up to about £30.raleigh runabout

I developed a plan; I would buy a motorcycle and solve all my transport/social needs.  The only trouble was my mother who was obsessively anti risk of any kind and that included motorcycles.  I could have ignored her protests and bought one anyway, after all it was my hard earned money, but I knew I would never live it down and the issue would be raised again and again.  I simply could not be bothered to put up with that. One day I was in the town of New Milton, looking in the local bike shop window.  There was a reasonably new Raleigh M3 Runabout moped.  OK it was not my dream machine, it looked pretty naff just like what it was really, a heavyweight bike with a little two stroke engine attached.  It was hardly “The Leather Boys”, but I reckoned |I could persuade my mum it would be just the thing both of us needed safe and convenient.  This I managed to do, and my lonely life changed forever.

The New Forest has a number of its own highway hazards.  The best known to most is the ponies. According to William 1st laws, in the Forest ponies have right of way, hit one and you are in trouble in more ways than one.  They also like to congregate under the road bridges in the summer to get in the shade and away from flies.  Finally, the trippers who come to The Forest often like to feed them, which is illegal because it encourages them onto the roads.

The second hazard is little patches of fog which accumulate particularly in the many road depressions as they pass through the wet boggy heath either side. These are most frequent at night or early morning and frequently have, you guessed it, ponies in the middle of the fog.

Finally, what are known locally as “Water splashes”, everyone else calls the fords but in the Forest they are water splashes.  There are hundreds of them.  They are usually quite slippery, and often with, you guessed it again, ponies drinking in them, which is probably why they are slippery.

The Runabout served me adequately for about eighteen months until I took my car test.  My mother was so keen to get me off two wheels she then lent me her car. This suffered a freak accident while I was driving to see a mate when a decent sized female deer jumped over a hedge and landed on the bonnet. It was quite a shock, but one of those “forest” things.

I do remember mates from home having Puch Maxis, Royal Enfield Crusader sports and an Ariel Huntmaster, all of which |I rode occasionally, and a James ML which we found in an old outbuilding, with the hand change through the tank.

Away at school there was also a secret shed we borrowed and filled with decrepit old motorcycles, Cubs, C15s, even a Triumph twin.  We would occasionally be able to get them going, funds and expertise allowing, and get the odd ride.  On Friday afternoons my school insisted that we all play soldiers, which seems utterly pointless to me until they started the MT section which I was allowed to join.  There I learnt the ways of Army mechanical fault finding through a test we had to sit at an army camp near Yeovil.  The test was called certificate T and it taught me one essential lesson.  In all fault finding only change one thing at a time”, a lesson I have usually followed, and which has stood me in good stead.  In the summer of 1968, I did ride down from Salisbury to St Maws in Cornwall, about 150miles on the back of my mate Newts LI150 Lambretta scooter.  A very cheap trip, we were going on our first holiday ever away from parents.  Staying in a free flat and eating boiled limpets off the beach to save money for beer. We rode each other’s bikes, a C15 and a Suzuki super six and the Lambretta. I told my mum I was going in Newts car a 600cc Fiat but when I got to his place it would not start.

Then came University and marriage in 1971 and my dad gave us his old Triumph Herald estate car as a wedding present.  I learnt a bit more engine maintenance, and what it cost to run a car when not having any money.  My father - in - law was an ace amateur mechanic and taught me a lot.  1972 saw me working as a research student and we were living in the middle of London near Camden Town.  So, to be honest we didn’t need a car which we could not afford.  Then came the OPEC oil crisis and petrol went up to 50p per gallon and was informally rationed at filling stations to one or two gallons per vehicle.

I suggested to Shelley that we get rid of the car and buy a motorbike and she agreed, so off we went to Pride and Clarkes in Stockwell road. As I did not have my test, it was a choice between a Suzuki Bloop or a 250 BSA Starfire. I figured that to carry a pillion I needed at least a 250, in addition to taking and passing a test, so I went for the BSA.  I got £75 for the car because “nobody wants a car at the moment due to the cost of petrol,” and paid £125 for the BSA because “everyone wants a motorbike because of the cost of petrol.”  I rode it back from Stockwell road right through the rush hour up Southampton Row, learning to ride a proper bike with gears, etc all the way home.  Arh the stupidity of youth.

So started my continued ownership, riding, maintenance, and rebuilding of motorcycles, from the gutter to the workshop, from the ordinary to quite exotic.

The BSA was not a good bike, it was an over tweaked C15 which had had a series of unforgiving owners over its 5-year life.  The handling, frame, brakes and forks were quite superb, the engine and especially the kick start mechanism, which appeared to be made form cheese, were not good. Still, I learnt a lot of mechanical things from a group of “helpful” passers-by as I squatted in the gutter by the main road outside our flat, with the bloody thing in bits.  To be fair I did meet some really helpful folk, many of whom lived in the empty terraced houses down the road as squatters.  They had access to workshops they had converted and in which I could occasionally work on my bikes.  I suppose if you had shoulder length hair, a beard, a pair of what were known as “loon pants” and then a motorbike, you fitted in pretty well to what was a Hippy existence.  I remember going to the workshop down the road to work on the bike to find it closed because they were filming a pornographic film in among the bikes. Don’t know how the performers didn’t get all oily, as I never saw the end result.

We used to regularly ride down to see our parents who were about 100 miles away and mostly we got back with a bit of roadside fiddling.

Then I passed my test and the BSA had to go.  I sold it with a broken kick start as the spares simply were not available from any of the North London bike dealers and I inhabited them all.

Exchange and Mart was scrutinised and a trip to “The Right On Trucking Company” ( remember the Robert Crumb cartoon character in the “Keep On Trucking” cartoon and the cartoons on the cover of the first Janis Joplin album, “Cheap Thrills”.  That was what inspired this bike dealership.  You entered to the smell of petrol, oil, and dope but there was my dream, a 1962 650cc Triumph Bikini backed 6T.

It had had a bad engine rebuild judging by the amount of gasket goo on the outside and it had a lot of its tin ware missing.  But it ran and had an M-o-T. and I loved it.  I bought it for £150 and rode it home to Tufnell Park.

For some reason I decided I liked the original semi clad look of the bike even though much of it was missing.  I could have ripped it all off and replaced with more modern looking parts, which was commonly done in 1973.  I used to meet cartoonist Paul Sample of Ogri fame in the cue for parts at Humphries in Islington.  He had completely re styled an “S” Sunbeam with his own elaborate tank paint job, all rather “Easy Rider”.  So, to decide to put the 6T back to original aesthetic spec was probably an odd choice.  However, in London at the time were dozens of parts suppliers selling off basically old stock from Triumph and BSA, Hamrax motors came up with most of the missing tin ware and the rest as they say is history.  The bike got used for commuting, travel around London, and trips back home to the south coast and the New forest.  I never added up the miles but in four years of ownership must have been 30 or 40 thousand. Not trouble free by any means but always fixable.

In order to make a few extra pounds I bought a range of derelicts from my squatter pals and sorted them out, M-o-T, rode them for a bit and sold them.  I remember a full bathtub distributor 3TA which had appalling brakes and dreadful soft suspension and a rather nice A10 which was a fine, smooth, machine to ride, but I needed the money, so it had to go.

I found a Yamaha 90 step through in a big bin at a lab I was working in and asked around.  I was pointed to the owner who said I could have it for a fiver, which seemed bit rich as it was in the bin but I was looking for a bike for Shelley, so bought it and got it Transported home to the curb side workshop. It was really good apart from a stripped kickstart which was fixed by a blob of weld from a mate. Shelley passed her test on it and used it a lot.

In 1976 I had finished my research project, got my higher degree and managed to get a job eventually with the new Severn Trent Water Authority as a contract fisheries researcher.  I was based in Malvern and working across Shropshire into mid and North Wales, so we needed to move.  We bought a BMC J4 van off a couple of Australians who were going back to Oz.  We loaded up the tools, the Triumph and a recently acquired Enfield Bullet and I headed north to Malvern with the intention of camping out in it until Shelley arrived nearer Christmas having worked out her notice.  Fortunately, one of my new work colleagues took pity on me and I slept in his spare room for a couple of months.  The bikes stayed largely in the van.  Pat Robotham


Racing Remembered

Stretching the Truth!
An amusing little story involving my Sunbeam, myself and my brother John who raced it. There is one other person in this story and that is Gary Gardiner. Gary was a pleasant and very enthusiastic young man who had taken on the role of commentator at our vintage race meetings. I often used to visit Gary in the commentary box for a quick word with Gary and his father, another very nice man. They made a really good team with Gary doing the talking and dad making notes and passing on bits of information.
One year at our early Mallory Park vintage race meeting Gary was combing the race paddock talking to racers and their teams for snippets of information that he could use during his race commentary. I told you he was enthusiastic, he was keen to make a good job as a commentator.
Racing is a serious business, but we always look on the brighter side of life and look for an opportunity for a bit of fun. Gary’s knowledge of the internal combustion engine was minimal so when he asked us if we had made any mods to the Sunbeam over the winter. It was an opportunity too good to miss. John launched into a story listing some of the smaller changes we had made before telling Gary that the most important mod was to fit a rubber connecting rod that greatly improved engine performance. He then carried on to tell him that the when the engine was running the rubber con-rod stretched and raised the compression ratio. The faster the engine went the more the con-rod stretched. The more it stretched, the higher the compression ratio became and even more power was produced.
Gary went on his way smiling, armed with this little gem of John’s imagination filed away. We were both laughing and smiling too at how easy it was to get Gary to swallow John’s fiction, hook, line and sinker.
It gets even better. We didn’t know that Gary had recorded the conversation. At the lunch break, when the race paddock was relatively quiet Gary played the recording back to the whole paddock over the Tannoy. There was then lots more laughing and smiling faces.  Eddy


 

Another superb model engine from John Goodall:-

When I was running Barton Model Products and publishing Model Engine World magazine I had a reader in Ukraine named Alexander Osovitch he regularly used to ring me each time the monthly issue reached him to discuss things. I discovered he ran a company called Profi Micro Engines in Kiev. His factory once made Leica cameras in the Soviet era. Then in circa 1995 they were making some of the best racing model two stroke engines in the world. They introduced a range of scale multi cylinder engines based on the British Blackburn Cirrus engine which De Haviland took over and became the DH Cirrus. Eventually this morphed into the famous DH Gypsy series. I started to import engines from Alexander and he would send them to me and when I had safely received them he asked me to transfer the money to a bank in Panama paid in US Dollars?? I found out this was due to possible mafia interference??

They made the four cylinder Cirrus engine in two scales 1/12 and 1/6 which came out as a 2cc 4 cylinder OHV engine and an 18cc version with Radio control throttle a very useable engine and they sounded beautiful too. These were later produced as a variant of the Vee four at 4cc and included a water cooled version all the others being air cooled. I discovered they made a water cooled four cylinder double overhead camshaft four cylinder 50cc engine and so I had this idea to build one into a 50cc racer project?? I show this little masterpiece in the three pictures. It was a beauty. It had a toothed belt drive to the oil pump for lubrication and a similarly driven water pump for cooling. It was normally used in model boats!

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I obtained a radiator off a Japanese 50cc bike and got as far as purchasing the engine, but soon realised there was a big problem, the gearbox?? It really needed as many speeds as possible probably six at least and where to find one that could be adapted and would not absorb too much power? This proved the stumbling block and so the engine was sold on. They are still available and cost about $1500 back in year 2000, which then was cheap, but today would be more? If anyone has any bright ideas for a gearbox please get in touch.  John Goodall.


 

I’m Pickin’ Up Good Vibrations – Part 2 of John Grew's story

 

So the 1980’s found me raising a family and working hard for the money to feed the mortgage. I was lucky in having retained two motorcycles during this period; my BMW 750 R75/6 and a ‘Desert Racer’ 600 Matchless single that I had rebuilt prior to marriage. I felt lucky that I hadn’t experienced the “gap years” as so many of my peers had owing to commitments.

 

As previously mentioned, I had owned virtually every AJS / Matchless post war model, but two bikes had evaded me. One was the all alloy competition single and the other the ‘parts bin special’ known as the ‘Desert Sled’ powered by the 750 Norton Atlas engine. I found a competition single for sale in the Matchy Owners Club magazine, but never found a 750 twin for sale at that time.

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Typical 600 cc Matchless ‘Desert Racer’ Typhoon

 

A telephone call to the vendor confirmed that the competition bike was still for sale and it was actually a rare 600 single called the ‘Typhoon’. These were built for the American desert racers who wanted “more cubes”, a familiar tune! The price seemed reasonable and I had a little bit of “pocket money”. This was a time before the inflated prices started.

 

The chap on the end of the phone sounded “posh” as he gave directions to his property. Next day a friend gave me a lift on the back of his bike to the ‘stockbroker belt’ on the outskirts of London. It was a typical cold and foggy winter’s ride and we were quite cold as we rode into one of the double entrance drives that led to this palatial building. The bike was standing in front of a large garage and I eagerly knocked on the front door with one eye cocked towards the single. A middle aged man opened the door and I asked if we could have a good look at the bike and start it up, especially as if I did purchase it, the intension was to ride it back home to Derbyshire. He said abruptly that we could inspect the bike and to knock again with the money if the sale was on, at which point the door slammed shut!

 

The bike started up easily and sounded quite healthy. A second knock on the front door summoned the owner and cash was exchanged for the logbook. The door promptly slammed shut again. It would have been nice to be offered a cup of tea, but he probably wanted to check his financial standing. There’s nowt so queer as folk!

 

I completely renovated the Matchless and even managed to obtain an original 7R front wheel to improve the pretty marginal front brake. There wasn’t much remanufacturing going on back then and I wanted some parts for this rare model. The only place that seemed to have any bits was Russell motors in Battersea, London.

 

When I dismantled the Typhoon, it became obvious that it was a bitza. There were no matching numbers, so I saved up some more cash and set off for London to see if Russells had any parts. I eventually found their poky little shop and had already spotted some “treasure” in the front window. I bought new crankcases, barrel, head etc. etc. I couldn’t believe this bonanza. I enquired how they had all these tasty parts. The story goes that when the Plumstead factory finally closed Russells had a phone call suggesting they turn up quickly to get some stuff or it would all disappear. They were only round the corner from the factory so it was “in the right place at the right time”.

 

All this excitement had made me hungry and thirsty, so I asked if there was a pub nearby. Directions were given and I soon found myself in a typical London pub with lots of enamelled bricks and tiles. Liking real ale, I think I ordered a pint of Fuller’s best and a cob. The landlord had a confused look on his face. I asked again, and again and I finally pointed towards the back of the bar. “Cor blimey, speak English, you want a roll “. The Bow Bells were ringing in my ear!

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 My freshly restored competition single

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At speed – classic racing at Oulton Park

I have never gone to work in a car and the BMW was doing sterling work, day after day. The bike soon clocked up 100,000 miles and was very reliable. My restored 600 single was a lovely looking bike, in my humble opinion, and had plenty of poke, but that irritation of excess vibration niggled away, especially when I jumped straight off the smooth BM onto the Matchless. That huge single piston flying up and down had its consequences.

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It’s all to do with horsepower

 

I was reading an article about the Paris-Dakar Rally in one of the bike magazines and the gist of the story was how Yamaha, who had won the earliest rallies were now eclipsed by not only BMW, but also an unlikely winner in the shape of a Ducati 90 degree V-twin engined Cagiva. Yamaha had their 750 Super Tenere vertical twin, but reports suggested that the Cagiva 90 degree twin’s out of step firing order gave more traction through the sand with the rear tyre’s “stuttered” bite.

 

The engineers at Yamaha might have read Phil Irving’s article about “out of step crankshaft” vertical twins; not only reducing vibration but also with the bonus of better traction through sand. Next year saw the work’s Paris-Dakar bike enlarged to 850 with a 90 degree out of step crankshaft. Guess who won for several years? Yamaha rediscovered this attribute in recent times with the M1 four-cylinder Moto GP winning bikes when they fitted an “out of phase” crossplane crank that improved rear wheel traction

 

Yamaha sold a road going replica of their 750 Super Tenere and also used the engine cases to make an 850 road going all rounder called the TDM. Both these models used a typical 360 degree crank layout early on, but the new 850 TDM would now be fitted with the Paris-Dakar-esque out of step crank. This mimics a 90 degree v-twin in sound and feel with the added benefit of the lowered vibration. That Phil Irving article never left my thoughts and some how I had to raise the cash to buy one.

 

I seemed to have gravitated to twins and singles, apart from a brief encounter with that new Triumph Trident and the odd ride on Japanese fours, so the thought of another compact vertical twin with low vibration was very appealing. Another influence was my love of the sound and feel of a v-twin; that “dee-dum, dee-dum” offbeat sound that mimics a heart beating; that visceral feeling. The TDM would fit the bill nicely. All I had to do was fund the purchase. This proved to be an emotional experience.

 

The BMW had now clocked well over 120,000 hard miles and needed a rebuild. It might raise a bit of cash and I would be sad to sell my faithful steed, but BMW spares are expensive so that was a lever to let her go. How could I ever contemplate selling the competition single? However, being a rare bike increased its intrinsic value and I did the unthinkable of selling my last connection with AMC. I never thought AMC bikes were better than any other makes. Remember my first “big” bike was that cheap 350 Matchless and the rest followed as if by accident.

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The BMW had been a faithful steed.

 

So, I took delivery of a new 850 “wobbly crank” TDM Yamaha in silver and yellow. To me it was like a modern Norton Commando, smooth and with loads of low down torque. I was “Pickin’ up good vibrations”. It had an advantage over my Commando in having an electric start. That Norton twin engine took some kicking over, especially with high compression pistons. An example of this was when I went to part exchange the Norton for the Ducati V-twin. Many of Norton engines destroyed the main bearings very quickly. An engine designed just post war was now expected to produce three times more BHP and with the Commando rider isolated from any engine vibration, prolonged high revs were common. This was a recipe for disaster. The Ducati salesman insisted that he wanted to check for rumbling main bearings and asked if he could start the bike. He was most embarrassed when he couldn’t even turn the engine over and just bounced on the kickstart! I’d cut my teeth on big singles so starting it was second nature and it started first kick for me. Norton eventually fixed the problem by fitting ‘super blend’ bearings.  These special main bearings have slightly “barrelled” rollers and allow the crank to flex at high revs without the rollers “digging” into the outer races.

 

So I settled into enjoying my time with the Yamaha. The “out of phase” crank offered me the pseudo feel of a V-twin that gave me “good vibrations”. Yamaha actually went one step further with the TDM and fitted balancer shafts. Other riders enquired what it was like to ride and replied that it was “like a V-twin single”.

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Compact dry sump TDM engine

 

I often wondered what would have transpired if the British bike industry had taken up Irving’s idea. I started to do some research and found that some sidecar racers had experimented with these cranks. Large capacity vertical twins were regularly used by the sidecar teams, but as others started to use souped-up Hillman Imp engines etc., they needed more power. More power equals more capacity and oversize twins were the order of the day. Of course, these twins vibrated a lot and some of the crews looked at Irving’s idea.

 

The BSA and Triumph engines were cheap and cheerful. They did a good job and could be made quick and reliable in the right hands. Remember Chris Vincent won the 1962 Sidecar TT using a BSA twin. However, unless you make a crank from scratch, as Nourish Engineering still do, you are stuck with modifying the standard crank and it is far more complicated. Then my attention turned to the Norton Atlas/Commando crank. This is a bolted-up structure with a heavy central cast iron flywheel and forged outer crank “cheeks”. The whole lot is held together by high tensile bolts. Tony Harris (of recent ‘Chat’ Ariel V-twin fame) was also thinking along similar lines. We found that if we turned one crank cheek 90 degrees to the other the bolt holes didn’t line up, but more importantly they didn’t overlap by say half a hole that would prove problematic. “All” that was needed was a new central flywheel “spacer”. The jigsaw pieces started to fit together in my mind; an Irving crank; fond memories of the Commando concept; grunty long stroke Norton twin; V-twin sound and feel.

 

So, this research sowed the seeds and I started to look for bits to build a 750 G15 ‘Desert Sled’ Matchless special, the missing link in my AMC model ownership.  John Grew

To be continued .........

 


Mick Dughan lets his virtual mind run wild:-

What a busy week, I’ve had.  Last weekend I had the  Relay Rally and now have to think the Burton Parade.

Mind you I did enjoy the Relay Rally, the roads were virtually traffic free and I’ve never known the B31 run so well, you could not believe that the engine was running, it was so quiet.  Performance was also spectacular,  I must have visited virtually every checkpoint and didn’t use a drop of fuel.  On the downside I need to check the odometer since no mileage was recorded!

I've sorted this out for the Parade since distances between junctions are vital.  Talking of the Parade the Committee done all the usual preparations, Brian has the routes sorted, Ann has sorted the entries, Vic has the venue and coffee stop booked, John Stone has all the trophies ready, Jackie and Denise are ready to empty your pockets for the raffle, in fact everything is sorted except as you know it is not going to happen, at least not just yet.

You can however celebrate the day, John Stone is starting the day with a cooked breakfast, real not virtual, I have some nice crusty bread and cheese and onion with a bottle of Pedigree to wash it down for the buffet when I get back from my virtual parade,  I might even get a virtual trophy this year which would be nice, but I will enjoy the day as usual anyway.����  Mick

 

The Burton Parade 2020  ........ Well not quite, because we are all in lockdown due to the current restrictions.  We can't have our parade today but as a small consolation here are some moments from past parades until we can once again enjoy the real thing.  Eddy

  


 

 Photographs from Brian Slack of past parades.